DOWN AT 8

“Up at 4” and “Down at 8” are a collection of songs that started off as demos in my living room. After releasing, “Lionel Boy” I wanted to continue exploring production and collaborating with friends. I felt like I spent all and none of 2021 working on these songs. Producing these EPs looked like a lot of early mornings and evenings spent at my computer screen. Some days feeling like I made no changes at all. I’m a pretty early riser—waking up at 4 am which are when many of these songs came to mind. I spend most of my time working when the world is quiet which sounds nice but isn’t always the easiest to do when you live in an older apartment with downstairs neighbors. Everything I do to get things moving in the morning is an inconvenience to the people around me—the creaky wood floors, tracking vocals, tapping my drum machine...just one of the many ways I’ve woken up my girlfriend throughout the years. Trying to find a balance between making my music when the creativity strikes while also being a respectful roommate/neighbor is tricky but we make it work. I’m grateful for the people who have helped me elevate these songs beyond this space. Friends like Brett Kramer, Andrew Pham, Ukiah Bogle, Casey Liu, Nathan Hawelu, Harlem (Dotager) and Jonny Bell were crucial to making these songs what they are now. It’s taken a bit but I’ve started to find a sound and process that works best for me and I’m excited to share it. "indie pop, soul, and electronics all intermingle.... one that recalls Mac DeMarco in its hallucinogenic warmth while retaining a lingering soulful edge" - CLASH